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PostSubject: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:10 pm

Army Group South Stavka Attacks Heeresgruppe Süd at Besserabria

Date: Sunday April 19th
Time: TBD
Server: SHD 40 person
Map: Arad Real Forests 4
Time Limit: 100 Minutes

~Special Ruling~
Axis get to set up their Infantry as far north as North Village.
German Armor must stay in German Spawn until 5 minutes is up.
When 5 minutes is done Allied Leader announces that the match has begun.
Remember the Caps will be gone.


Map Modder Information for This Match:

~Axis~

Equipment:
- 2 StuG IIIB's
- 2 Panzer IVF1's
- 2 Sdkfz 251's

Personnel:
- 4 Panzerfuhrers (Tank Commanders)
- 4 Panzersoldaten (Tank Drivers)
- 1 Gruppenfuhrer (SMG, k98, g41)
- 1 Scharfschutze (k98 w/ scope)
- 2 Pionieeren (k98, g41, or smg, w/ satchels, but no grenades)
- 2 AT-Soldat (PTRD Class, no Binoculars)
- 2 Schutze mit Mk (G41)
- 4 Schutzen (k98)




~Allies~

Equipment:
1 T34
1 KV1
3 BT7's
1 T60
1 Zis-5 Truck
3 Artillery Barrages

Personnel:
- 6 Tank Commanders
- 6 Tank Drivers
- 1 Squad Leader (Svt 40, pprd 40, ppsh 41)
- 1 Team leader (New Class Remember: Svt 40 or MN 91/30, regular grenades, binoculars but can't call arty)
- 1 PTRD Rifleman (No binoculars)
- 3 Riflemen (MN 91/30, M38 )


~Remove~
- Other tanks that get in your way
- pzfaust boxes
- Cap Zones
- Update Artillery


Any questions let me know... Severloh after you see this post reply here to let me know you have received this info.

Thank you and good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:21 pm

map is completed.
were goin to upload it to our server and ill have a link for metal through steam.
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:48 am

Is there a way we could move this match? I just realised that Sunday is Easter and I'm sure many will not be available for it.

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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:40 pm

Metalbourne wrote:
Is there a way we could move this match? I just realised that Sunday is Easter and I'm sure many will not be available for it.

I'm all for that, to be honest. We're not going to have many available, that's for certain.
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:09 pm

Oh yea..forgot about that..Yes please change..I will be with the family all day and unable to play.
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:30 pm

Yeah, lets push it back to the following weekend. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:51 pm

Also, could I please get the map ASAP. Thanks Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:03 pm

Hey metal,
Ya i was going to ask u if we boh can push the match to the 19th, as this the 12th easter or not we have alot of guys not goin to show, wed probably have like 6 guys show up, wouldn't be worth the fight.

as for the map we still dont have it on our server, and im tryin to get jaeger to get it up today(mon). as so as we get it up then i will get u a link as soon as i see u on steam. but since were pushin the match to the next weekend we should both have 2 weeks to practice and or plan for the map.
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:22 am

yes, lets just push it back because no one will be able to play including myself. So lets push back to the following Sunday. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:46 am

Hey Gunter, I need the map again please for the match. It says it was corrupt. Could I get another link please to it.

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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:35 pm

great game.

Allied losses
2 Artillery Barrages


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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:49 pm

why did u report for us, your numbers and equip are incorrect, report your own losses please.
How can we lose stuff we didn't use.
we used a half track but i wasn't destroyed.

German losses

Equipment:
- 1 StuG IIIB
- 2 Panzer IVF1's

Personnel:
- 3 Panzerfuhrers (Tank Commanders)
- 3 Panzersoldaten (Tank Drivers)
- 2 Pionieeren
- 2 AT-Soldat (PTRD Class)

our stug3bs didn't have any cannon sites recticles either, we were shooting out a freakin window i couldn't hit a dam thing i was shooting at, u can take that tank and shove up ur ass, same with the F1s
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:06 pm

ok lets go easy now.

yes it was a terrible loss for axis. for the equipment we had it was fortunate to happen.

Gunter's post on our losses is almost correct except for a 3rd panzer 4.

we did not however have a sniper.

we did not have a squad leader.

we did not have 2 satchel carriers. only 1.

we did not have 2 lone semi-rifle men.

we did not have 4 lone k98 rifle men.

To further back this up.. if this was correct we would have had 20 soldiers and would have outnumbered the allies by 7 (axis was in fact outnumbered by 2) . Also it is only a 25 man server so there is no possible way we used all this. Also, axis was well aware of the rules of TOC and we did not have anyone play a second life and respawn as other roles. Everyone left the server when they died. Half the roles SHD-oddb mentioned were not even implemented on the edited map.

We used ONLY 3 infantrymen. 1 satchel carrier and the 2 ptrd's.

We used 1 halftrack and it was well hidden and disappeared before allies could discover its whereabouts.
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Now ive mentioned this before, but both sides should discuss and tally everything out before posting.

Allies you posted this almost immediately after the battle and obviously did not have time to think about it. Lets be mindful of this next time.


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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:15 pm

Just to simplify and make things more clear:

Allies new equipment list should be -2 artillery + any reinforcements.

Axis list should look like this:

0- Panzer IVF1’s
0 - Panzer III's
1 - StuG IIIB's
9 - Panzertruppen
7 - Sdkfz 251's
75 - Infantrie
1 - Scharfschütze
0 - Artillery Barrage

+ any reinforcements from other AG groups in november.
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:38 pm

sorry.. I changed my post. All is good now.
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:54 pm

thank you oddb. no apology or nothin? heh thats ok, as long as you didnt post it like that to piss us off Razz

ahh there you see? i didnt even do my homework..

it was not 3 pnzer 4's but 2. 2 stugs instead of 1.

2 pzr 4's.**
2 stugs.**

so:

1 - Panzer IVF1’s
0 - Panzer III's
0 - StuG IIIB's
9 - Panzertruppen
7 - Sdkfz 251's
75 - Infantrie
1 - Scharfschütze
0 - Artillery Barrage
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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 pm

thank you for the information, congrats allies... German AG Sud will have 2 PZIII's for next turn (november) don't forget as these were shipped by AG Nord in October. I'll make that correction but keep that in mind.

and gunter Ive never had that non-recticle problem with the stug 3b before... sorry to hear that.


(gunter I'll be sending you another post about yesterday later today)

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PostSubject: Re: 2nd Battle of Bessarabria (October 41)   Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:07 pm

Friedrich Werner wrote:
thank you for the information, congrats allies... German AG Sud will have 2 PZIII's for next turn (november) don't forget as these were shipped by AG Nord in October. I'll make that correction but keep that in mind.

and gunter Ive never had that non-recticle problem with the stug 3b before... sorry to hear that.


(gunter I'll be sending you another post about yesterday later today)

Werner

I think the StuG IIIB issue was serverside. We must be missing a file for the optics textures on the turret, because I've been able to use the vehicle on other servers.

I'd also like to thank Army Group Nord and our other comrades North of us who have offered support in these hard times.
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